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5.6. A Sea song from Unst ("Delen stoiten") http://nornlanguage.x10.mx/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=57 |
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Author: | Hnolt [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:56 pm ] |
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Norn: Dεlən ståitən ståŋga râra ōba mỏņa hwat sēis dū tə bỏņşka vεļa latna mei bi driŋga sēna pōba vâra latna mei bi driŋga sta'rka bỏrna væsta şagdə kåļ, ş.k., sændə båra væsta şagdə kåļa gamla hwεn də wεrna tåpşäg şagdə kåļ, ş.k., hwεn də wεrna tåpşäg şagdə kåļa gamla Another variant: Dâla ståita ståŋga rø˙r (rēla) bỏņşka væļa mỏņa sta'rka bỏrna fiskali (sta'rka vỏrna væstali) şaidə kåļə gambli - Lēdra bō bi äņdi. A version from "The Home of a Naturalist": Saina poba wer-a Leetra mavi, letra mavi, Saina poba wer-a Leetra mavi drengie. Daala stuyta stonga rara Oh badeea, oh badeea, Daala stuyta stonga rara, Oh badeea moynie. Wher der isno topshar, topshag, topshag, Wher der isno topshag, Shakda cole o Gamblie. http://nornlanguage.x10.mx/index.php?shettxt/56seasong |
Author: | Lundtrollinn [ Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:10 pm ] |
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Sorry, I don't really understand... Is it a real song in norn language recorded in Unst ? If yes, when ? And why this graphy ? Was it on sound file or directly on textfile ? Who did this transcription ? |
Author: | Hrafn [ Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:00 pm ] |
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Jacob Jacobsen visited Shetland in order to research the Norn language. The language was no longer spoken at that time, but there was many remains, this song is one of them. Jacobsen was a philologist, and he used phonetic letters when he wrote the songs down. |
Author: | Lundtrollinn [ Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:18 pm ] |
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Ok, I expected that, but as well it's not written, I wandered. |
Author: | Hnolt [ Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:48 pm ] |
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This is a real Norn song recorded in the late 1800's. Jakob Jakobsen transcribed the song in the 1890's (the first two variants), the third version was published in 1888 by Edmonston in "The Home of a Naturalist", which is available here: http://www.archive.org/details/homeofnaturalist00edmouoft |
Author: | Thorbjorn [ Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:23 pm ] |
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Reading the lyrics reminds me of the Unst Boat Song which I am sure it is. I have the words for another version that I will dig out from my workshop and get posted up. I also have access to a couple of groups/ individuals singing it if anyone wants to hear them. |
Author: | Hnolt [ Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:02 pm ] |
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Yes, this is another title of the same song. There used to be an old recording of this song on YouTube which I can't find now. Of course, any other recordings of this song will be very welcome. |
Author: | Hnolt [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:07 am ] |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoGGrqWJFeo Recorded in 1947. The Singer is a native from Unst, John Stikle (1875-1957). |
Author: | Ljun [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:28 pm ] |
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The 'chorus' here resembles the chorus in a Faroese jesting (comic poem) called "Kall og svein ungi" (The old- and the young man) However in the Shetland case, there might only be one (old) man involved (monologue), the describing word 'gamla' (old) only being repeated every second time. Shetland: sta'rka bỏrna væsta şagdə kåļ, ş.k., (said the [young?] man) sændə båra væsta şagdə kåļa gamla (said the old man) hwεn də wεrna tåpşäg şagdə kåļ, ş.k., (said the [young?] man) hwεn də wεrna tåpşäg şagdə kåļa gamla (said the old man) ............................ Compare this to the Faroese: "Hvar rakst tú neyt míni?" segði kall – (said the [old] man) "Beint niðan í akur tín!" segði svein ungi. (said the young man) "Skam fái tú rekandi!" segði kall – (said the [old] man) "So fái tú biðjandi!" segði svein ungi. (said the young man) .................. http://www.fotatradk.com/kv/Kall%20og%20Svein%20ungi.htm |
Author: | Ugl [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:25 pm ] |
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That youtube film is golddust!!. Brilliant |
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