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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:55 pm 
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Here are some words I translated in my spare time. I used the Jakobsens Phonetics of Shet. Norn to convert sounds values into Norn. Not really a perfect job, but I hope it can be used as a starting point. More to come, I'll later add the ON roots in brakets)

Animals:
dog (*hund -m)
cat (*kεtt -m)
fish (*fisk -m)
bird (*fugl -m)
animal (*djur -n)
snake (*orm -m)
cow (*kør -f)
pig (*swin -n)
mouse (*mus -f)
horse (*hest -m / *ross -n)
tail (*hali -m / *tagl? -n)
wing (*vong? *væng? -m).

Transport:
train (*tog? -n)
plane (*fløgvjεl -f)
car (*bil -m)
bicycle (*rεþjøl? -n "ride wheel")
bus (*buss -m)
boat (*bo:t -m)
wheel (*jøl? -n *jul? -n)
gasoline (*bensin -n sg.)
ticket (*fermiþi -m).

City/Countryside:
city (*bur -m)
house (*hus -n)
street (*gata -f)
airport (*fløghøfn -f)
train station (*jarnbrøtar*staþ -m)
bridge (*bru -f)
hotel (*gasthus -n)
farm (*bø -m / *garþ -m).

Clothes:
hat (*hεtt -m)
dress (*kertil -m)
shirt (*skerta -f)
T-shirt (*bøl -m)
shoe (*skor -m).

Colors:
red (*røder)
green (*groner)
blue (*bloer)
yellow (*guler)
brown (*brunn)
pink (*ljusrøder)
orange (*rødguler)
black (*svarter)
white (*kwiter)
gray (*gror).

People-related:
son (*søner? / *suner)
daughter (*døtter)
mother (*moþer)
father (*faþer)
man (*maþer)
woman (*kvεna -f)
brother (*broþer -m)
sister (*sister)
family (*huski -n / *familja -f)
grandfather (*avi -m)
grandmother (*amma -f)
king (*kong -m)
queen (*drøtten -f)
neighbour (*grann -m)
boy (*drεng -m)
girl (*gεnta -f)
death (*døþer -m)
money (*pεnger -m).

Beverages:
coffee (*kaffi -n)
tea (*tε -n, Sg.)
wine (*vin -n)
beer (*øl -n)
water (*vatn -n)
milk (*mjølk - f, Sg.).

Food/Food Related:
egg (*ægg / *εgg / *egg -n)
cheese (*ost -m)
bread (*brø:ð / *brø:d - n)
soup (*supa -f)
cake (*kæka -f)
chicken (*hæns / *hens -n)
pork (*swinakjøt -n "swine meat")
beef (*nøtakjøt -n "cattle meat")
apple (*(sur)æpli "sour apple" -n IRREG. - Sg: suræpli, suræpli, suræpli, suræplis; Pl: suræpli, suræpli, suræplon, suræpla)
banana (*banan -m)
orange (*rødguleræpli -n "orange apple")
lemon (*sitron -f)
corn (*korn -n)
rice (*rīs -n , [b]Pl.: rīs, rīs, rīson, rīsa)
oil (*olja -f)
seed (*sōd -n Sg.)
knife (*kniv -m)
spoon (*spōn -m)
fork (*gaffil -m - IRREG. - Sg.: gaffil, gaffil, gaffli, gaffils; Pl.: gafflar, gaffla, gafflon, gaffla ???)
plate (*disk -m)
cup (*kopp -m)
breakfast (*morgunmat -m - Sg.)
lunch (Far. døgurði)
dinner (Far. nátturði)
sugar (*sykur -m IRREG. - Sg.: sykur, sykur, sykri, sykurs)
grain (*gryn -n)

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en so mykid j Hiatlande ad segs skillingar ok XL hrentadi leigan a huerium tolf manadum... ok þar til oll ol gogn sidan fyrir vttan kannur ok diska ok potta ok onnur elld gogn er hon mintisk ei huorsu morg voru (Húsavíkarbrøvini, 1403)


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This is interesting!

i am a new member here, from Sweden. I am studying old Swedish and other Nordic languages.

In Icelandic, Faroese, Danish and Norwegian the word for "animal" is "Dyr". In Swedish it is "Djur".

How can the word exist in Norn but it doesn't in any other language of the Nordic ones?

By the way I think that "Wheel" must have the mute "H" before the j. In modern Swedish it is still "Hjul".
It has still survived from the times when h- was in front of a lot of consonants.

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Welcome Njord to our forum!
The word for animal in Faroese is 'djór'. Both Old Nordic variants (djór/dýr) come from Proto-Scandinavian *deur.
Yes, we normally keep hj- in Nynorn, like in Hjetland, pronounced [jetland].

To tokførari - thanks for your list! Actually, some of these words are already present in our Nynorn dictionary that you find on the website.
We don't use -er with adjectives either, so it has to be omitted. Now I'm working on the English <> Nynorn dictionary, so your ideas will be very useful! (now I can't comment on each particular word, will do that later).


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Ok Hnolt, I'll do my very best to search for new words. Sorry for all the þs, but i did prepare the list before you told me about orkney nynorn.... hehehe

Feel free to ask me for any particular translation....

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en so mykid j Hiatlande ad segs skillingar ok XL hrentadi leigan a huerium tolf manadum... ok þar til oll ol gogn sidan fyrir vttan kannur ok diska ok potta ok onnur elld gogn er hon mintisk ei huorsu morg voru (Húsavíkarbrøvini, 1403)


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Faroese uses both dýr and djór, actually. :)

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I have no idea, actually.

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